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I had this moment while watching tonight's episode where I was staring at Puck's hideous hair and the way it looks like it's trying to run away from his scalp but can't quite manage it. And I realized Puck's hair sort of has a similar relationship with his scalp to the relationship I have with Glee. I'd probably have lower blood pressure on Tuesdays if I just stopped watching, but all I can seem to manage are these little curls of rebellion in the form of posting angry gifs on tumblr.
The thing is, I'm honestly not going to quit this show, not unless they put something on air that exceeds Funeral's manipulative triggering jackpot. (This episode was unbelievably angering, but for me, it still doesn't reach the record nadir that Funeral set.) When Glee's good, it's good; when it's funny, it's immensely hilarious, and when it hits the right emotional buttons, it hits them more effectively then just about any other show on television. It engages with issues and debates and characters that matter to me, in ways very few other shows on TV seem interested in doing, even if that engagement is often seriously messed-up and rage-inducing. At least for me, I don't want to spend every Tuesday post-episode shouting into my computer GLEE, YOU ARE A FACTORY OF ANGER, BUT I'LL STILL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK. I'd much rather talk about enjoyable moments.
But this week? Fuck it. Just, fuck it. GLEE, YOU ARE A FACTORY OF ANGER.
Before I yell a lot about Finn Hudson, here are six things I liked:
1) Sugar’s entire existence. The unicorn move was adorable, but my favorite moment? Sugar taking the opportunity to hug Mercedes while Santana was hugging Finn, and Mercedes's WTF face. Hands down the best exchange of the night.
2) Santana. I projected my little queer heart out onto her tonight, so my reactions to her aren't in any way objective, but the way she kissed Brittany's cheek on camera and drew a heart around her check box on the ballot made me so, so happy.
3) Puck writing in Ross Perot's name. SINGING MELISSA ETHERIDGE JUST MADE HIM NOSTALGIC FOR THE EARLY NINETIES, OKAY, HE MISSES STONEWASHED BLUE JEANS AND REVERSE BASEBALL CAPS TOO, ALSO CRYSTAL PEPSI.
4)


There's so many stories just in these two screencaps. Eric Stoltz, you guys. Sue Sylvester has Eric Stoltz in her booty call book. Eric Stoltz has also apparently changed his number multiple times, but nobody gets away from one Sue Sylvester. And I guess Sue used the Soviet embassy as her go-between for hookups with Putin, before she managed to score his home phone number. I also like to think that the reason there's a number for an all night pizza delivery next to Stephen "Train Wreck" Baldwin's name is because Stephen Baldwin is now delivering pizza in Lima, Ohio. (Notice the lack of number for him.)
5) Mercedes was the first one of the girls to speak up for Santana in the hallway. How much did I love that? A whole lot. ♥____♥
6) SAM NEXT WEEK. SAM. SAM. SAM STRIPPING. SAM. SAM. SAAAAAAAAAAAAAM.
And now, rage time:
You know that pure heart of Will Schuester's? The one that's just like Jean's? IT IS IN REALITY THE WORST HEART. THE WORST. Even setting aside the fact that he let Kurt get beat up on a regular basis for years, not once hauling any of those kids into Figgins's office like he did Santana, his reframing of the whole situation was unbelievably offensive. I know Will wasn't actually present for Finn's outing, but having him say that "[Santana] thought the whole thing was Finn's fault" (no, you asshole, she didn't think it; it was Finn's fault) and that Santana "hit Finn unprovoked" - I don't care if he doesn't know the whole story, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, TALK TO SANTANA AND HEAR WHAT SHE HAS TO SAY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED? Oh, my God. If I thought this was actually intentional writing, I'd be impressed, because it's phenomenally passive-aggressive and redirective, and it is actually a pretty realistic depiction of one of the ways privilege gets deployed, but NOPE, WILL IS A GOOD MAN AND FINN IS A HERO AND HE HAS A PURE HEART, TOO.
Finn blackmailing Santana into coming back to ND for his I'm Totally Not a Homophobe project by not only telling her he'd get her suspended if she didn't, but also saying he's worried about her killing herself if she isn't more honest about who she is - that was some of the most offensive shit I've heard on a show that is broadly, generously offensive in many ways every week. Never mind letting Santana come to terms with her sexuality and her anger on her own terms, Finn Hudson knows what's best, and he's going to push her out of the closet whether she likes it or not! Which is good, because she needs a push from a straight white cis male who clearly understands her needs! I just – look, last week he took away her right to come out the way she wanted. He took that away from her. And this week he not only makes her coming out process all about him, he justifies his own actions by saying they’re helping save her life, WHEN HE WAS THE ONE WHO ENDANGERED HER IN THE FIRST PLACE BY OUTING HER. FUCK.
And then, the rancid cherry on the rotting cake: the writers have Santana hug Finn, and thank him for what he’s done for her. So a storyline that should’ve ideally had Brittany as its secondary character, because she’s Santana’s goddamned girlfriend, has Finn Hudson instead! This is an important story, and therefore we need a straight white cis male character to validate its importance.
Other things I really want to talk about with you guys in the comments but won't elaborate on too much here, because this is already approaching a ridiculous length:
- Puck and Quinn. Appreciate that at least one person on the show is expressing concern for Quinn (even if he did say he’d rather fuck a beehive than her – and wow, did that speech make me angry); appreciate that the show seems to, at least on a superficial level, realize a baby or a guy isn’t going to fix what’s wrong with her; hate that once again, a male character is the one to point out to a female character that she needs help. I need to watch that scene again, but there was something about Quinn’s ready and accepting response that really sat poorly with me, almost like his “diagnosis” was the verbal equivalent of last season’s bad juju-eliminating haircut.
- Sue, Beiste and Cooter. Cooter’s a dick, Shannon deserves better (although I get why she wants to “fight” for him, even though I wish she wouldn’t) and I could write a whole lot about the overt Sue/Quinn parallel in “Jolene,” which I thought was really interesting. And honestly, it’s a little sad, and indicative of how bad things are for her, that having Cooter in her life is the best thing that’s happened to Sue since she met Becky - because imo Cooter hasn’t shown us anything that indicates he’s any great shakes.
- Will and Emma gave Shannon relationship advice. Let that sink in for a second. Will Schuester and Emma Pillsbury gave someone else relationship advice.
See you next week, Glee.
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Date: 2011-11-30 07:50 am (UTC)I had this moment while watching tonight's episode where I was staring at Puck's hideous hair and the way it looks like it's trying to run away from his scalp but can't quite manage it. And I realized Puck's hair sort of has a similar relationship with his scalp to the relationship I have with Glee.
This entire paragraph is made of win.
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Date: 2011-11-30 08:15 am (UTC)Oh, man. LAUGHING THROUGH THE TEARS RIGHT NOW.
I could literally write pages on how angry this episode made me. Just-- everything you said about Finn. The fact that the show didn't even acknowledge what Finn did in the previous episode, even to excuse it. It might as well not have happened, for all the characters talked about it in this episode. The fact that Santana had no agency, except for the scene where she comes out to her grandmother. Other than that, Constant Craving, and the small scene right before I Kissed a Girl (ugh), all of the scenes that involved her and were about her getting outed weren't about her at all. They were about Finn and how he felt, or about the girls.... making some point... with I Kissed a Girl. I had a lot of problems with the last episode, but the way I could feel Santana's pain in the final scenes was extremely well done. This episode's main storyline was 10% about her pain and 90% about what a great guy Finn is.
And Brittany! The extent of her reaction to her girlfriend being outed was "Santana is normal". Which is an amazing line, don't get me wrong, but it's one line, and actually less than both Quinn and Rachel said about the situation in the same scene. Just.... how does one write a storyline like this? The mind boggles.
Puck:
I happen to think Shelby is legitimately the worst, and Quinn is clearly messed up. But that said, it made me really uncomfortable that Puck was the one to lecture both Quinn and Shelby for not being "sane" enough, or "courageous" enough. I hate this storyline no matter what, but if Glee let all three characters be hot messes, it would work a lot better than Saint Puck Fixes the High Maintenance and Hysterical Women.
Kurt, Blaine, Rachel:
I liked that Perfect was well meaning, but also kind of self absorbed. I would rather Santana have accepted that performance than Girls Just Wanna Have Fun, but I thought it rang true that 1) they got a little caught up in their own egos during the performance, and 2) that Santana wasn't buying it. That said, I could do without the homophobic jokes, Glee. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.
The NYADA plotline continues to be the worst. I know realism isn't Glee's strong suit, but really, if Kurt doesn't get into NYADA, he apparently can't go to New York? I'm also not sure how I feel about the ballot stuffing and the suspension. I do think it was in-character for Kurt to contemplate cheating, and for Rachel to actually end up doing it, but something about the fact that Kurt didn't end up cheating, but Rachel did, kind of made me uncomfortable. But perhaps I'm just oversensitive because of all the sexism going on in the rest of the episode.
Beiste:
Jolene was so hot, y'all. But Cooter is really bland at best, and I hate that they're framing it as Beiste and Sue fighting over him, with no sense of awareness on the show's part that he isn't worth it, or that maybe it's not Beiste who needs to win him back, or Sue that's the other woman, but that Cooter is just kind of a dick.
Ending on a positive note, here! Sugar is actually the greatest. The actress is doing a great job with the little background moments, and I can see her fitting into ND so well.
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Date: 2011-11-30 08:35 am (UTC)All I will add is that I was, er, grateful that show gave me a tiny breather in my frothing rage against Finn to remind me that I hate Emma too: I wanted to fucking slap her for snarking on Shannon's food. I'm am getting really sick of the way that her eating is some huge joke that three adult female (NATURALLY, AMIRITE LADIES) characters so far must make snotty remarks about.
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Date: 2011-11-30 08:58 am (UTC)I thought Kurt's ~cheating storyline was weak and kind of unnecessary, but Kurt and Blaine and Rachel and Mercedes and Mike and Tina and Sugar Motta were wonderful in this episode. And Brittany was perfect. Santana... you keep doing you, except I'm not sure why you hugged --
oh, I think I'm feeling something
my blood pressure is rising
my skin looks a little green
my heart rate feels so fast
oh my god - HULK SMASH AUURGH
and then my anger simmers down to a nice cup of "fuck you"
and that's how I feel about Finn.
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Date: 2011-11-30 01:20 pm (UTC)Honestly, the stuff presented in the episode wasn't good, but I was expecting much worse. I hate that they forced a love triangle on Beiste, but I like that it came about because Cooter thought she didn't return his feelings as opposed to him chasing the "better option." Still a dick move but not as dickish as I thought it would be.
Finn was...yeah, Santana forgave him too easily. On the other hand, on his end, it spoke true to the character for me. Finn was still a massive douche, but he was trying to fix things in his own, stupid, misguided, douchey way. Does that make sense? The show let him off to easily for sure, but they played it consistent with how they have been portraying him, IMO.
I WAS SO PLEASED THAT THEY FINALLY ACKNOWLEDGED QUINN IS NOT OKAY, KJSDJFLSKDF. So much so that I missed...a lot of that speech. But she's supposed to go back to cray Quinn next episode, which...on one hand, I'm glad that it wasn't so easy as "man fixes problem, woman is okay." On the other, can we get some actual growth for her?
I'm actually really curious to your thoughts on Santana's coming out to her grandma.
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Date: 2011-11-30 03:33 pm (UTC)I just cannot believe that the writers of this show see no problems with the way Finn acts like an asshole in every. episode. and always comes out smelling like a rose at the end. Santana forgave him. She forgave him even though he forced her to come out, and a couple scenes later she is verbally harassed in the hallway by a student. Remember how Finn said the entire school already knew that she was a lesbian and didn't care? Obviously, that student didn't know until the commercial aired, and when he did know he took the opportunity to harass her about her sexuality.
But it's okay for Santana to be open to that sort of trauma because at least Finn doesn't have to have her blood on his hands when she commits suicide. Because he (and the show) actually had the gall to cite Jamie Rodeymeyer's suicide, not as a means to see how horrible harassment of out gay kids in high school can be, as a way to clear his straight, privileged conscious.
The more I think about this episode the more appalled I am at the writers because I know that none of this offensiveness was in any way an intentional satire. There are kids who watch Glee for the LGBT storylines and now all they're getting are messages that they're cowards for staying in the closet and that their fears of bullying are over-exaggerated. The fact that none of the writers stepped back to think "maybe we aren't going about this the correct way" is absolutely ridiculous and incredibly sad.
I'm gonna stop there because if I start on how the female characters are written on this show I might break livejournal :P.
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Date: 2011-11-30 03:39 pm (UTC)But I love Naya's acting. I love it so much. Her scene with her Abuela is like the scene I had with my aunt when I came out to her. It hit home for me so much. I need to write an angsty Santana fic.
AND QUINN! She is drowning so much. A Quinn/Shelby may help me work through some of that. I forgot to say that the first time.
P.S. I love your write ups, bb. They let me get my ~*feelings*~ out.
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Date: 2011-11-30 04:14 pm (UTC)Things I got from this episode (mind you, while only half paying attention):
Finn's a selfish, condescending douchebag
Rachel's a well-intentioned, selfish asshole (it's growth!)
Santana seeks external validation
Quinn needs help
Kurt is at a crossroads about his future but unlike Finn he didn't solve his problems with sex
Blaine knows this but doesn't know how to help so instead he raps
Sugar desperately wants friends but only knows how to buy things not earn things
Mike has a crush on Kurt
Puck is a forty year old manchild
Will is an idiot and everyone is humoring him
Coach Beiste is better than this bullshit
Sue has been lost since the superbowl ep
Mercedes remains the only sane woman.
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Date: 2011-11-30 04:40 pm (UTC)I didn't think the writing could have gotten more contrived, but it did. Finn cares about her. Since when? It meant something to him when they had sex. EL OH FUCKING EL, since when? FUCK.
Of course Will took Finn's side.
Lesbianism is still a consequence. Every two people can kiss and get moments, private or otherwise, of affection. But the lesbian couple? The two characters that have technically been together from the beginning and are, imho, the only two characters who are actually by definition in love with each other? Absolutely nothing. It's on purpose. There is no other way around it. They will only write and place these two girls in public so they don't have to show them being an actual couple. They really only give a shit about what the PTC care about in this regard, because they obviously weren't scared of it when Kurt and Blaine had a hot kiss for no fucking reason other than to do it last season. Atrociously sexist. And somehow happens despite the fact that this is the gayest show on American TV, one of the creators is gay and a lesbian is one of the staff writers/producers. The homophobia is mind boggling.
It's not just about wanting to see two girls kiss. I'm not asking for a gratuitous make-out scene or anything. But when Brittany went up to her after CC, all that was needed was a loving peck on the lips. One that say's, "I'm proud or you," or "that was so great," like Finn/Rachel, Finn/Quinn, etc., have given each other for the past three years after a song.
Your second paragraph is perfect. I won't quit the show. And while it has frustrated me, I have always been able to keep the good moments forefront. This is the first time where I have been legitimately angry and felt legitimate hate towards it. How can I love something so much that is so, so bad at what it does? I'm angry. I'm sad. I-I just want this week to be over with.
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Date: 2011-11-30 10:31 pm (UTC)ME, WHILE WATCHING THIS OFFENSIVE GARBAGE PILE LAST NIGHT:
I can't even bear to think about it for one second longer, so that gif is gon have to do.
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Date: 2011-12-01 02:19 am (UTC)At the same time, I'm still not in a RAGE about it because, even if it would have been nice if they had handled this particular subject matter well, the issues with the way the Finn/Santana stuff shook out were just . . . the problems the show always has, where no one's emotional arc is continuous between episodes and every time someone takes a step forward they take two steps back and the writers ignore what's inconvenient for the particular story they're trying to tell. The way the show just ignored Finn's part in Santana's outing is the same way the show ignored Quinn's mellowing in Season 1 and Rachel respecting Mercedes's talent way back in fucking Sectionals and Jesse maybe actually being in love with Rachel but maybe not but maybe and Sue actually having a heart in . . . all the episodes Sue has a heart in. I dunno; I guess the fact that I think it comes from ineptitude rather than a conscious decision to try to make XYZ happen makes me hate it less.
Because, actually, apart from how incredibly smurfy this episode was, I kind of liked it? Like, if I just pretended this was the first episode of this show I had ever seen, it was fine. Problematic as what, but fine.
Other thoughts:
1) I am on board the Sugar Motta bandwagon. So. Much. Love.
2) DID YOU MISS THAT SANTANA KISSED THE BALLOT BEFORE SHE PUT IT IN BECAUSE THAT WAS ADORABLE.
3) I kind of adored all the girls sticking up for Santana in the hallway. I hate "I Kissed a Girl," but the fact that it was a kind of tongue-in-cheek reclamation of the song made it work for me. (Um, it was tongue-in-cheek, anyway. If this were a better show, I'd say the reclamation aspect of it was intentional and done well, but it's not, so.)
4) I actually really liked all of the music this week, at least as music, if not always how it was used in the episode. Also, a point in favor of not being spoiled for song choices: I cackled during "I'm the Only One" because I wasn't expecting it, and it was so douche-tastically appropriate for Puck.
5) Speaking of, I hope his speech to Quinn doesn't magically "fix" her. Like, if it starts her on the path to figuring her shit out, I can handle that. If she's suddenly all better, I'm going to be so pissed. (I'm prepared to be pissed.)
6) Also, I want her to freak the fuck out on Shelby SO MUCH. Not because of Beth, or Puck, but because SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU SHELBY YOU ARE THE WORST.
Final thought: The scene in Figgins's office in the beginning was so weird to me that it made me wonder if it was some sort of meta thing. Like, did people freak about the Quinn/Rachel slap, and this was RIB+'s idea of addressing that slapping people is wrong? It was just so weird. (Also, did Figgins say this policy started three years ago? Are we sure Santana wasn't being retroactively punished for the time she attacked Lauren and a teacher saw, or the time she attacked Quinn and Will saw? Y'know, things she actually should have been suspended for? Shut up, show.)
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Date: 2011-12-01 07:12 am (UTC)"ASKFL;ASDJFJDASL; DFAS;D RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE"
So did my next twenty or so thoughts.
Once I finally regained some semblance of coherence, I was able to think about what I didn't like and why I didn't like it. You've summarised a lot of it here (four for you, etc etc <3), but the thing that keeps sticking with me and making me sad is that this episode was perfectly set up to be centered around the girls' narratives and it just wasn't.
When I say perfectly set up, I mean it. The theme was songs for girls by girls. Santana, Beiste, Quinn, and Rachel all had what could have been a significant role because they took action in different ways. There were so many other ways this episode could have gone. It would have been so much more interesting to have it be focused purely on the girls -- to see Rachel's dilemma in depth, and to watch her scheme about cheating (because you know Lea Michele would've made that shit hilarious); to see the rivalry between Beiste and Sue as it really is, because let's face it, they've been going head-to-head from the getgo about more than just some guy; to get a glimpse into Quinn's head and get the chance to feel some empathy for her, because right now she's either being painted as a villain or a psycho and all of our sympathy as viewers is being directed, deliberately, at Puck. And fuck it all, it would've been damned nice to see Santana's coming out story (even with Finn's asshole behaviour) from her own goddamned point of view, where she was the protagonist, insults and all, instead of giving that part over to Finn fucking Hudson.
I'm sorry, but that sounds like a damned good episode.
I think this is the most blatantly sexist Glee has ever been. That's four major, important, interesting storylines revolving around women, and in each one the major, 'sympathetic' role or focus was given over to the guy. Finn took over Santana's storyline, Puck took over Quinn's, and Cooter was set between Sue and Beiste as their only point of contention. The only point I'll concede is that yes, Kurt's storyline was somewhat interesting, and I wouldn't mind the focus being on him in that particular one (despite Rachel's major involvement) if it weren't for the fact that it was the fourth storyline in which the men behaved calmly and with integrity (supposedly) while the women acted out. Like, holy shit. That's pretty fucking sick.
It's just so unnecessary! Like I said above, each and every one of those storylines could have been approached from the female character's pov. Even just one, jesus. Even just one would've lessened the shittyness of this episode.
/end of sexism rant. mostly.
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Date: 2011-12-01 04:04 pm (UTC)I truly cannot believe this is the episode we got Santana's coming out story. I can't believe the moron who wrote this, wrote it and then everyone else on this joke of a writing staff was like great job! there are no gross issues anywhere in this script. I mean for them to allow for this story to be told from the pov and be made about Finn Hudson, straight, white, cis-gendered, male, hero of heroes, Finn Hudson is disgusting.
I don’t really have much to say about any of it aside from how offensive it was and for some reason be surprised that this is the route they decided to take. I just can’t believe they took the opportunity away from exploring Santana coming to terms with herself and her sexuality and dealing with being so forcefully outed so they can remind us how great Finn is, and that they swept him outing her under the rug. This storyline should have focused on Santana and they could have used the C storyline to focus on Finn being a gross homophobe yet again, who is maybe trying to make amends (tho seeing everyone berate him about what a colossal fuck wit he is would’ve been great too). I also can’t believe they included the line about the igb kid committing suicide, and Finn saying he wouldn’t be able to live with himself if anything happened to her when he was the one that outed her(:\\\\\\\), and that she means something to him because she took his virginity. Especially since we've been told repeatedly that it was meaningless and not worth it and they've shown Santana to be almost a villain for taking it. I just can’t believe this is how they handled it and that they gave her validation through Finn. Don’t worry Santana bb your grandma doesn’t love you, but Finn thinks you’re important and special.
This was a really long way of saying the lack of agency for so many of the female characters drives me absolutely crazy. Though I do think Santana got it in the scene with her grandmother. I wish we saw the rest of her family, I know spoilers and stuff, idk maybe give her a shoulder to cry on after leaving her grandmother’s house. What I would’ve given to see her be supported by her family or Brittany or hell Sue, instead of Finn.
Also, on the lack of Brittany, I agree with you 100%. They had Santana hug Finn, be moved to tears by Finn and let Finn say I love you to her but not let Brittany do anything.
I didn’t really like the Puck/Quinn scene, it was too ‘male character plays savior to the female character’ for me, which this episode is already overflowing with. Maybe watching these scenes without watching the rest of the episode would change my mind.
I'm happy the election storyline is over with; I didn't like how most of it played out and of course while I do think it was really in character for Rachel, I don’t like they got a girl to be the one to cheat. The NYADA storyline and their belief that Julliard and NYADA are the only schools in NYC makes me want to beat them both over the heads. Based on how things have played out (and some of the actor bleed) I'm not really as ~taken by the Kurt/Rachel friendship as I was last season.
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