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This is a show about singing teenagers with terrible continuity and less attention span than a three year old. Most of the time something about it makes me upset or frustrated, I usually just shrug it off with, well, you know, Glee, and it's not worth getting worked up overI'm in this fandom because sometimes the show makes me laugh really hard, and sometimes it makes me feel feelings about ridiculous people, and every so often there's great music and terrible dancing and we see Howard Bamboo. That's enough for me. 


"Funeral" made me angry, though, in a way I don't usually let this show make me angry. I don't know what I was expecting, honestly - maybe something along the lines of "Grilled Cheesus," which admittedly, I wasn't crazy about. "Grilled Cheesus," at least, seemed somewhat interested in having a discussion about faith, and what faith might mean to individual people, as seriously flawed as that discussion was. This episode did a lot of really appalling things in the name of sentimentality. I'm not going to even find the space here to address Rachel singing "My Man," which in context made my jaw drop, and not in the way the show intended, or the terrible pacing, or the way we get, yet again, a condescending nod towards Mercedes and Kurt's chances for a solo in a competition. The episode's central and worst offense, though, was using the death of a character largely defined by her disability as a catalyst to 1) ricochet Sue from literally homicidal to suddenly relatable and 2) force Will and Finn into the hero roles the show so desperately wants them to occupy. 


One of the major foundational problems in all of this is Sue and the terrible way she's been written this season. Glee's consistently unable to reconcile its over-the-top, intentionally unrealistic absurdities (see Sue attempting to torture a student with dental tools just last episode) with its more serious notes, and she's been one of the biggest victims of that conflict. It's not like there haven't been moments on this show where Sue's been humanized in effective ways - in the judging room at Regionals, where she defended the glee club; her reaction to Quinn's pregnancy; even her defense of fitness in schools to Bryan Ryan. But in S2, outside that brief interaction with Kurt during her tenure as principal, the smatterings of her humanity have come entirely from over-the-top, emotionally manipulative moments inserted out of nowhere into the larger narrative, and then never addressed again (see especially the Will/Sue teary-eyed singalong over the heads of dying children in "Comeback"). 


So, yes, killing off Jean is lazy writing, pushing the reset button: a shortcut to erasing everything the show's done badly or hasn't attempted with Sue this season. Worse, though, and more troubling, is the way Jean's used here as a prop, as the sanctified disabled character whose death serves as catharsis. I'm not going to pretend Jean was ever anything more to this show than a vehicle for Sue's humanization; she's never been a character in her own right, in much the same way that Finn's paralyzed friend Sean - remember him? - was a character in his own right. But I'm still left with a bad taste in my mouth from the way Jean's disability is supposed to function on its own as a kind of narrative. A large part of the pathos Jean's meant to create has always stemmed from her disability, in a way that reinforces tropes of the disabled character as other, somehow different, somehow better or sanctified (thankfully, Becky's largely escaped this latter treatment). I'm not disputing creating a minor, recurring character whose innate goodness brings out Sue's humanity. What makes me pause is the way the show unapologetically uses her disability and related death to further other characters' plotlines, specifically characters that have absolutely no connection to Jean or to Sue. 


Because Jean's death, ultimately, isn't about Jean. It isn't even just about Sue, which is where the major reverberations of Jean's death should end. Somehow it's about Will, and his "pure heart," and even more inexplicably, it's about Finn. There's absolutely no reason, really, for Finn to be in Sue's office with Kurt attempting to comfort Sue - Quinn would've made much more sense, or even Mercedes, because at least those characters have history with Sue. No, Finn's there so the writers can give him Jean's funeral planning as a device to indicate his leadership capabilities, and separate him from heartless Jesse, who points out that New Directions really has no business getting involved in planning a funeral just a week away from Nationals. Finn's there so he can tell everyone, with all the sanctimony of Will, that "Jean is just like us, guys. She's been an outsider and an underdog all her life." (I'm not the only one who immediately thought of Will's similarly infuriating "we're all minorities" line in "Throwdown," am I?) This episode uses Jean as both relational device - we're just like her! - and aspirational device - she was so pure and good! - without ever thinking about how troubling both of those moves are.


And, of course, it's Jean's death that gives us two of the most infuriating moments in an infuriating episode: Finn's relationship crisis and Sue's comparison of Will to Jean. We were treated to an obvious camera pan during Will's reading of Sue's eulogy, the shot lingering on Finn's miserable face while we hear about how Sue and Jean were tethered together. This transfer of emotional weight might not be such a mockery if the entire season, leading up to this point, hadn't showcased Finn's hypocrisy and general terrible treatment of both Rachel and Quinn. And while I'm not going to object to most of Sue's interactions with Will this episode, that final scene, where she compared his "pure heart" to Jean's, was horrifyingly jarring and came across as ridiculously OOC, even for a vulnerable Sue. We went from a begrudging "you're a good educator" in last year's season finale to "you have a pure heart" at the end of this season? Really? Will, at his absolute best, is earnest and somewhat well-intentioned, but the writers have given us absolutely nothing to indicate Will's anything right now but self-absorbed, ineffective, self-righteous, short-sighted and occasionally, alarmingly angry. To map St. Jean over Will, just to make sure we're on board with him as our hero, is the absolute laziest kind of narrative prosthesis. 


The funeral scene still hit me, hard, thanks to Jane Lynch's acting - she gave those lines and that situation more resonance than most would've been able to do in that situation. But so much of this episode is just lost for me in a miasma of offensive, careless, shamelessly manipulative writing that doesn't deserve the emotions it wrung out of its audience. The problems with Sue's characterization aren't fixed, just because her sister's dead and she's realized what the audience did about ten episodes ago: her vendetta against the glee club is tired and annoying. The problems with Will and Finn aren't fixed, just because Sue tells us Will is a great human being or Finn realizes he wants with Rachel what Sue had with Jean (!). 


I'd like to forget this episode ever happened. Luckily, with the continuity on this show, that should be pretty easy.

Date: 2011-05-18 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littlestclouds.livejournal.com
The problems with Will and Finn aren't fixed, just because Sue tells us Will is a great human being or Finn realizes he wants with Rachel what Sue had with Jean (!).

I couldn't have put it better.

Date: 2011-05-18 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellydash.livejournal.com
Thank you. ♥ I just wish this show didn't put Will and Finn on a pedestal, you know? They'd be so much more interesting as characters if there wasn't this fundamental gap between what RIB are clearly intending and what their writing indicates.

Date: 2011-05-18 12:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ladyofspring.livejournal.com
I agree with everything you've written here but Funeral was actually my favorite episode this show had had in awhile. Yes, it was lazy and hypocritical and a superficial shortcut for certain characters' redemption arcs but that's exactly what Glee's been since sometime mid season one to me.

Don't let this show make you angry Elly. It hasn't been particularly smart or interesting in awhile and I've long since stopped expecting better from it. All I ask for is a good performance or two, some Sue/Will and a bemused chuckle or two. Funeral supplied that.

Edited Date: 2011-05-18 12:10 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-05-18 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellydash.livejournal.com
I can understand that, actually. There were moments in this episode that really, really affected me, mostly thanks to Jane being absolutely amazing - this show is so lucky to have her. (It's odd to me, by the way, that so many of the major Will/Sue moments this season were the two of them being really vulnerable with each other - AVGC, Comeback and now Funeral. I'm still not sure what to make of that.)

I'm really a lot happier watching Glee, when I don't expect anything from it, and usually I don't, but this was such a raw, emotional episode, and the intensity of that emotion really pushed up the frustration factor for me. I'm all angered out now, though - writing all this out made me feel much better. ♥
Edited Date: 2011-05-18 10:58 pm (UTC)

Date: 2011-05-18 02:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] abluegirl.livejournal.com
Thank you so much for writing this. You have put into words all of my feelings about this episode in a way I never could.

Likewise, I am pretending this episode never, ever happened. :/

Date: 2011-05-18 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellydash.livejournal.com
You're welcome. ♥ And thank you.

Date: 2011-05-18 04:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pleonasm
You said, I think, everything that needed to be said. Well, except I would add that I am really, really tired of Will "taking care" of the women in his life by doing difficult things for them -- with Emma, washing her fruit ~so tenderly~ and then this time, by reading Jean's eulogy... man, I was about shouting at the screen at this point, what a way to make Sue looks helpless, and so completely unnecessary.

I am so tired of Will and Finn being thrown up as our perfect leads. It hasn't been true since the pilot.

Date: 2011-05-18 11:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellydash.livejournal.com
And even in the pilot, we had Will blackmailing Finn with weed! The thing is, I really, really enjoy Will in those moments where the show has a sense of humor about him. BIOTA was my ideal Will - self-deprecating, having fun with someone he isn't trying to sleep with, drunk-grading, etc. I'd like that guy back. :(

I'm of two minds about Will reading Jean's eulogy. I completely agree about hating the way Will's set up as caretaker, and you're totally right that the fact this gets repeated makes it so much worse. And I really didn't like that Will didn't wait to be asked. On the other hand, though, there was something really moving to me about Sue letting Will support her, both literally and figuratively (admittedly, having been in Sue's position before, I'm projecting all over the place).

Date: 2011-05-19 12:12 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pleonasm
I agree! I mean, I've never been really fond of Will, but he's much, much more tolerable when he's not St. Will.

I guess I wish she would have asked. I wouldn't have minded so much if Will wasn't doing his "I know what's best for you" routine again. The adult women in this show are never allowed to know what's best for them, except Holly, and even then we have the idea that she's totally wrong about living the way she does.

Date: 2011-05-19 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellydash.livejournal.com
Ugh, the "I know what's best for you" is the worst, seriously. I think that's why I never really minded Holly on the show (although she did get tiring in her last appearance) - the sense that she wasn't going to let Will dictate her life for her. But, like you said, we're supposed to think her choices are wrong, so.

Date: 2011-05-19 06:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pleonasm
I liked Holly a lot at first, although I think she would have been way better as a one-off character. Still, a lady who dated Will without having her life ruined! That's pretty impressive.

Needs moar Bieste.

Date: 2011-05-19 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellydash.livejournal.com
Such a terrible, terrible decision on RIB's part not to have her in the back episodes of this season. Although maybe I should want her to stay far, far away, because of that whole ruining-everything-we-love thing that RIB do so well.

Will is just 1000% more tolerable when he and Shannon are being bros together. I want a million scenes next season of Shannon figuratively smacking him upside the head and telling him he's a dumbass when he's being a dumbass (which, with his track record lately, is all the time).

Date: 2011-05-19 07:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] pleonasm
I love them being bros. They are the best bros ever. I actually think that's the reason she hasn't been around much: Beiste would totally have made Will stop being an idiot more often.

Date: 2011-05-18 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] haispecialhell.livejournal.com
You pretty much summed up my thoughts on the episode and Glee to an extent. I sort of gave up on the show having any writing quality, outside of hilarious one-liners, once the "Lucy" reveal was introduced.

I like fandom so I'll stick around for it, but I'm not certain as to whether I will be watching season 3.

Date: 2011-05-18 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellydash.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm pretty much with you. I'll probably tune into S3, because this show's still got its claws in me, but after last night, I think the bloom is off the rose, honestly.

Date: 2011-05-18 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pee-wee-2005.livejournal.com
I'm not going to even find the space here to address Rachel singing "My Man," which in context made my jaw drop, and not in the way the show intended,

Because Lea singing Barbra should always give your auditory system nothing but eargasmic joy...but when you see the what and how they used "My Man," contextually it sends you into a rage? Yeah. The first time I get to listen to songs in full (whether or not the whole song was used during the episode) is on my Wednesday morning commute. Listening to "My Man," for the "first time," legitimately pissed me off because I couldn't enjoy it.

Everything else you said. *sigh* It sucks because it's so fucking true.

Date: 2011-05-18 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellydash.livejournal.com
I could actually be okay with Rachel singing "My Man" about Finn if there were some actual signaling by the writers that they understand it's a song about a dysfunctional relationship - because these two are obviously and incredibly dysfunctional. But to frame it within the context of ~endgame~ is just terrible.

Date: 2011-05-18 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revengent.livejournal.com
Yeah, you basically just said everything I thought but couldn't express. I'm not like, raging, but I'm just really disappointed. But I've gotten used to the whole "Will and Finn are our heroes" thing - the Finn part grates at my nerves more though. I wanted to love this episode so badly, don't get me wrong there were bits I really liked and Jane's acting was fantastic and I did have some tears. But, it was super contrived - the most I think the show has ever been, and it's been blatant quite a few times, haha. The part that had me going "what...?" the most was Will's ~pure heart~ Yeah, he may be super helpful to the kids and stuff, but...yeah, not going there.

I'd like to forget this episode ever happened. Luckily, with the continuity on this show, that should be pretty easy.

I know that it probably shouldn't have, but this comment made me chuckle, because it's true LOL.

Date: 2011-05-18 11:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellydash.livejournal.com
I'm still not over the "pure heart" comment - honestly, that was so outrageous to me on so many levels. Sure, I can buy Sue being vulnerable in front of Will. I can buy her thanking him for being there for her. I can even buy her wishing him good luck and saying he's been a better friend to her than she's been to him. But telling him he has a pure heart? On what planet is that something Sue Sylvester would ever say?

And I'm glad that comment made you chuckle. I thought this post needed a little lightness at the end, because, after all, Glee. ♥

Date: 2011-05-18 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arishako.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'll admit, I'm really easy to please. I don't notice a lot of the bad acting or singing, I tend to overlook plotholes, and I usually can't even tell if the writing sounds like it came straight out of ff.net until someone else mentions it. And even I was basically horrified by some of the stuff that happened in this episode.

Because you're really good with words, I'm just going to quote the stuff you said already that I couldn't say any better:

- Rachel singing "My Man," which in context made my jaw drop, and not in the way the show intended

- a condescending nod towards Mercedes and Kurt's chances for a solo in a competition
(and, I get that Jesse was basically supposed to be the asshole in this ep, but calling Mercedes "lazy bones" was just really uncomfortable)

- the smatterings of her humanity have come entirely from over-the-top, emotionally manipulative moments inserted out of nowhere into the larger narrative, and then never addressed again

- A large part of the pathos Jean's meant to create has always stemmed from her disability, in a way that reinforces tropes of the disabled character as other, somehow different, somehow better or sanctified
(I just felt like the writers kept shouting that Sue's disabled sister is dead in hopes that that would add more drama or emotion to the scene, I guess)

- Because Jean's death, ultimately, isn't about Jean. It isn't even just about Sue, which is where the major reverberations of Jean's death should end. Somehow it's about Will, and his "pure heart," and even more inexplicably, it's about
Finn. There's absolutely no reason, really, for Finn to be in Sue's office with Kurt attempting to comfort Sue (I feel like they basically could have given Finn's lines to any of the other characters; there was nothing about what he said or did that seemed to reflect his unique character, other than the brief mention that his dad died when he was a baby)

- To map St. Jean over Will, just to make sure we're on board with him as our hero, is the absolute laziest kind of narrative prosthesis.

- The problems with Will and Finn aren't fixed, just because Sue tells us Will is a great human being or Finn realizes he wants with Rachel what Sue had with Jean (!).


Just... just ew, to be honest. I really don't have anything to say about this episode other than "ew" and "what even." But, yeah, at least this will be easy to forget about, just as most of the stuff adressed in Grilled Cheesus (or Sean, as well) has never been mentioned again.

Date: 2011-05-18 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellydash.livejournal.com
I'm honestly so glad I'm not the only one who was really disturbed - judging by tumblr and the amount of episode commentaries I've read, so much of fandom is salivating over this like it's the greatest thing the show's ever done. I mean, Jane hit it out of the park, and considering what she was given that's saying something, but there was just so much terrible.

That "lazy bones" comment got to me too, a little, and I'm still not sure why.

As dumb as this is, there's a part of me that's also frustrated because this episode had more Will/Sue interaction than anything we've gotten since "Funk," and, like, hand-holding, and I couldn't enjoy it because again, so much terrible context, ugh.

Date: 2011-05-18 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exova.livejournal.com
I probably won't watch S3 after this, because the writing has seriously gotten too frustrating. Nothing aggravates me more than being told a character is one way while being shown something completely different, over and over. It's the kind of shit that would make me put down a book (*cough* Twilight), so why treat a show any differently? /rant

But thanks for the very articulate post. All my thoughts on the subject are chasing each other around like squirrels with knives.

Date: 2011-05-19 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellydash.livejournal.com
Nothing aggravates me more than being told a character is one way while being shown something completely different, over and over.

This, exactly. It's the worst kind of writing. I'll probably still turn into S3, because apparently I'm a masochist like that, but honestly last night did more to disenchant me with this show than anything I've seen from it so far. It's going to take a long summer hiatus to get me back on board again.

And I know what you mean about thoughts chasing each other around! I wrote this very, very late last night (or very, very early, depending on perspective) and it was basically an attempt to get my thoughts to stop running and sit on the page for a little while.

Date: 2011-05-19 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-seaward.livejournal.com
Sooooo... yeah. I'mma just go ahead and +1 everything. Truly one of the worst (if not the worst) episodes of this dumb show yet, and by FAR the most emotionally manipulative in all the worst ways. I mean, I'm FINE with emotional manipulation most times—I'll watch Steel Magnolias until my mascara's running, I AIN'T CARE. But Christ on a cracker was this ridiculous. It was trying so hard to be heartfelt and just ended up hollow, offensive, unfeeling and downright unsettling.

I was really annoyed by RIB's attempt to make Jesse seem like such a villain. So, he's a bad guy simply because he was straightforward with his criticisms, not passive-aggressive and underhanded with them like Will is every goddamned week? Oh, okay. Sure. The whole thing was so obvious and ham-handed, but I guess the general audience likes being beaten over the head. At the end of the day, Jesse KEPT IT REAL AND WAS HILARIOUS, and I'm really hoping people didn't fall for the lame "that traitor is being such a meanie to our precious ickle glee club" ploy. (But obvs his scenes were flawless and I would watch 'Fondue for Two' with Jesse, Brit-Brit and Lord Tubbington all the live-long day.)

Like, did the Glee-watching audience-at-large think this ep was good and touching? Do they genuinely enjoy Finn and Will being on their screens, and nod along with the trite bullshit the other characters say about them? Were they all like "how cute, Finn is bringing Sue a stuffed kitty cat! This scene makes sense! I like Finn, and YES IT'S TRUE, Will has the purest of pure hearts; basically a Saint, that guy."?

Because if they were, I just CANNOT with America right now. Go to your room, America. And NO, you can't take your Game Boy with you.

Date: 2011-05-19 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellydash.livejournal.com
Oh, man, I'm so with you on the being okay with emotional manipulation. But, just, can we not make this prop character's death, which is clearly emotionally devastating for a character the show actually cares about, a device to beat us over the head with Will and Finn's innate goodness? The thing is, I think this episode would've worked so, so much better if Jean's death would've just been about Sue, and Sue having to deal with planning the funeral on her own (with no hilariously terrible mushroom decorations), and Sue coming to terms with the fact that she's lived her life in a way that's totally antithetical to what her sister wanted for her. That's interesting.

And judging by the reaction on tumblr, apparently most of the audience ate that whole thing up with a spoon. I haven't seen a lot of WILL AND FINN ARE THE GREATEST EVER FOR COMING TO SUE'S RESCUE but I haven't seen a lot of outrage, either, which is distressing.

(On another note, I talked to my dad yesterday about the episode - my dad stans for Sue and hates Will, so I knew he'd have a satisfying reaction, and I was right - I brought up the "pure heart" thing, and he immediately said, "Pure heart? Pure SHIT." I died.)

Date: 2011-05-20 12:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-seaward.livejournal.com
a.) OMG those MUSHROOMS. What even. I refuse to believe that Kurt would allow those mushrooms to exist.

b.) You dad, dude. Amazing.

Date: 2011-05-20 03:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellydash.livejournal.com
(RON. RON'S FACE. RON'S DUMB FACE. ♥)

a) The Kurt I know and love would give Finn the biggest sideeye that's ever existed just for suggesting those mushrooms.

b) He's pretty much the greatest ever. (He's also started calling Will Gaston, because "they're both self-absorbed guys with buttchins.")

Date: 2011-05-19 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sceptick.livejournal.com
This episode... just had nothing going for it. Nothing. Everything you've said here is perfect, you've stated the issues better than I ever could. Not only that, but the quality of the writing -- the plotting, even simple dialogue! -- was shitty. I mean. Not a single line had any true, emotional value. Very little of it sounded like the characters at all.

What I don't understand is why on earth the writers would do this episode, this storyline, now? It's the second to last episode of the season, for Chris'sakes! I guess they wanted to amp up viewership for the finale, but the Jean storyline was so random, so out of the blue, it felt completely at odds with everything else going on! The episode was so unbalanced, with the 'Nationals is coming up!' and the 'Sue's DISABLED SISTER, OMG is dead!' storylines not meshing at all. Yet another example of the poor writing on this show.

tl;dr I just can't even with this episode. Jane Lynch -- hell, all of the cast, even the weaker actors like Amber and Markward -- deserve better than this shit. My icon? Replace 'Mulder' with 'RIB' and you'll get a clear image of my thoughts on this matter. WHat the fuck indeed.

Date: 2011-05-19 07:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellydash.livejournal.com
This show needs a dose of Scully-sarcasm so badly, I can't even.

My guess is that they realized they wrote themselves into a corner with Sue this season (well, "wrote"; there wasn't much writing involved, really) and needed to pull her back into something recognizably human. And I'm sure there was a lot of behind-the-scenes hand-clapping over all the attention they'd get, which, like you said, was probably why. But yeah, doing something this dark, this randomly? Not the mood you want to set for going into a huge season finale.

Ugh, I think part of my frustration, outside the stuff about using a disabled character as a prop for somehow indicating Will and Finn's innate goodness, has to do with the fact that we finally got a Sue-centric episode, with tons of Will/Sue, where Jane Lynch got to stretch her acting muscles like crazy - all of which is, like, tailor-made for me - and it's in such a terrible, poorly written context that I can't even enjoy it.

Date: 2011-05-19 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Anon sneaking out of lurkdom to make a comment.

Your Glee fics are brilliant-- smarter and deeper than the show could ever be. Please don't stop writing for it just because the show is taking a serious nosedive ( "Alcohol" left me so mad I swore I'd stop watching it, but... nope). I love seeing what you do with these characters. You're so good. And you're so very right about "Funeral", too.

Date: 2011-05-20 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellydash.livejournal.com
Oh, anon, thank you! ♥ It means a lot to hear that.

I'm not done with this fandom, I promise. Just a little disillusioned at the moment. There's a lot I still love about the show, and as long as Puck and Sam are still being Puck and Sam, I'll probably keep tuning in.

Date: 2011-05-22 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glasheen25.livejournal.com
I totally agree with everything you just said. I didn't like the episode at all and it was a bit of a letdown from last weeks prom episode, which I actually loved.

Although Will is a know-it-all Mr. freaking perfect, who also has his nose in everyone else's business, I've kind of made my peace with his character. Finn, though will always piss me off. The writers try so hard to make his character endearing, when really he's just annoying.

Date: 2011-05-23 05:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellydash.livejournal.com
Yeah, I had a feeling I wasn't going to like this episode, because I usually cringe like hell when Glee tries to be super serious, but the whole thing really, really hit me the wrong way.

It's funny - as recently as BIOTA I was totally on board with Will, because we were getting a version of him that was faily and try-hard and obviously falling short, which is my favorite Will - so I think my disappointment with him has to do with that quick turn-around. And yeah, the way they're presenting Finn is frustratingly tone-deaf. I used to love that guy, and now I just want him off my screen. :(

Date: 2011-06-02 03:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alex-s9.livejournal.com
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I felt like a bad person when I saw the episode for the first time, because I didn't move me at all and irritated me in some parts. Second viewing made me realize it's not me, it's the shoddy writing; I don't care about Jean whom I saw twice maybe, and I most certainly don't care about Sue in season 2, and yet the writers expect me to be sad or compassionate. The only thing the accomplished was to make me angry.

On the plus, the break up scene between Quinn and Finn was surprisingly well-acted on both sides.

Date: 2011-06-03 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellydash.livejournal.com
I'm not adverse to some good old fashioned emotional manipulation, but I like it to be earned, you know? The show's shown it's capable of doing that before - To Sir With Love was sappy as hell, but it worked because the whole season had built up the relationship between Will and the kids. (I'm impressed you were able to sit through the episode again!)

Agreed about the break-up scene being well acted. I wish Cory, especially, was getting material worthy of him - he's so good.

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